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Old School Mouse

Old School Mouse is a diss track by Joe Budden targeting DJ Clue and Jay-Z. Joe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure.

Released2005
Annotated3
ExplicitYes
Addressable transcript

Lyrics & breakdown

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  1. 01

    [Verse]

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    You now listenin' to a different type of boss

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    Abstract, they cut him from a different type of cloth

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    Jers say that Mouse went a different type of soft

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    Only started when I was lookin' at different type of lofts

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    Told 'em, I'm a don, show me somethin' with a pool next

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    And I need four bathrooms, it ain't gotta be a duplex

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    White tee, boots yes, see 'em in a suit next

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    Or somethin' European shirt lookin' like a 2X

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    Runnin' for the ball like I'm Plaxico Burress

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    Or in Cancun breakin' a back on a brunette

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    Gimmicks down pat like they rehearse that much

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    I don't respond to a sublime, it ain't hurt that much

  4. 14

    Yea I scream out Jers that much

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    'Cause these other dudes fightin for New York like it's worth that much

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    And these sitcom niggas caress and hold bitches

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    To them they Golden Girls, to me, they old bitches

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    Chicks lookin' to G you, cons lookin' to cheat you

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    Owe a nigga money, you know he lookin' to see you!

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    Niggas lookin' to beat you

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    Fiends treat the hood like its Saw part two, 'cause they just lookin' for needles

  6. 22

    I wake up grateful that I'm breathin' first

    Multi-line diss block
    23

    'Cause dudes'll kill you, they don't need a reason first!

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    These niggas'll still hit 'em

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    They know the hood is too poor to hire CSI, and Gil Grissom

    Block noteImagines the battle as physical destruction

    TargetDJ Clue

    MeaningWhat it means: In “'Cause dudes'll kill you, they don't need a reason first!,” Joe Budden converts lyrical defeat into death, shooting, burial, or bodily harm directed at DJ Clue. Why it was said: Joe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure. The violent image makes the response sound final: instead of proposing an endless exchange, the artist depicts DJ Clue as unable to return for another round.

    ContextJoe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure.

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    Nowadays, gotta keep his blue steel with 'em

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    I know about snakes, 'cause I used to deal with 'em

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    Used to give my heart, used to rob, steal, with 'em

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    Let 'em meet mom, share my last meal with 'em

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    To rap now, you ain't gotta have skill with 'em

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    Just appeal (with 'em)...with a little rhythm

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    A dude has that and ready to attack y'all

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    You gotta kiss ass or else you get blackballed

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    If you don't like niggas, still give 'em dap y'all

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    I swear to God this hip hop shit is a trap y'all

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    I don't even remember how I used to act y'all

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    Something's wrong with the math, I know I can add y'all

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    I came out screamin' Desert Storm everyday

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    And soon as I stop, he don't wanna play

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    Stacks sayin' what you did for Clue, shit I just laced it

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    I didn't even know that dude was doin' his tape, shiiiitt

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    He don't want the fame no more, it's fuckin' with me

    Multi-line diss block
    43

    Don't hear Reasonable Doubt the same no more

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    I can't listen to Blueprint (naaw!)

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    Got a resentment toward Hov', tryin' to hate on 'em, throwin' in my two cent

    Block noteChallenges the target's public standing

    TargetJay-Z

    MeaningWhat it means: In “He don't want the fame no more, it's fuckin' with me,” Joe Budden questions whether Jay-Z's attention, audience, or reputation reflects genuine respect. Why it was said: Joe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure. Visibility can be mistaken for victory, so the artist recasts Jay-Z's recognition as temporary, manufactured, or disconnected from credibility.

    ContextJoe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure.

  12. 46

    They say don't bite the hand that feeds you

    Multi-line diss block
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    Even if I wanted to, I can't, no teeth to

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    Don't get me wrong, still I love Clue and Hov'

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    But they both rich, so what that gotta do with Joe?!

    Block noteTurns the target into a visual punchline

    TargetDJ Clue

    MeaningWhat it means: In “Even if I wanted to, I can't, no teeth to,” Joe Budden reduces DJ Clue to an exaggerated physical caricature instead of engaging the target's preferred public image. Why it was said: Joe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure. A visual insult is easy for an audience to remember and repeat; the goal is to make ridicule of DJ Clue travel beyond the song itself.

    ContextJoe Budden attacks DJ Clue and Jay-Z through the power structures around New York mixtapes, radio and label access. He argues that gatekeepers who once benefited from his work later minimized him or controlled which voices received exposure.

  13. 50

    I gotta bring home food for Joe...Trey that is...

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    Like, fuck why I say that shit?!

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    C4 why you take that shit?

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    But it's just how I feel, so naw, don't erase that shit

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    Child support's a bitch, but I take care of mine

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    But the law just say that I ain't there for mine

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    And the judge I look at (what about?)

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    Don't wanna hear, nor do he understand that things got pushed back

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    I'm sittin' here with all this anger, stop me

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    He's like what about this thing called a Gangsta Party?

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    Must think I live life like it's a Gangsta Party!

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    I'm 10 seconds away from a GANGSTA ROBBERY, NIGGA!!

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    No four leaf clover, I can't luck up

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    Feel like removin' the seeds and gettin' fucked up

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    Feelin' quick temper, somebody bound to get fucked up

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    I feel like everyone around me's a FUCK UP!

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    Ratchet on me, I'm screamin' out "what what!"

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    'Bout to live life like my last buck's up

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    I ain't got time to run around stuck up

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    Not when I just seen a group of niggas gettin' stuck up

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    So you damn right, I'm on my grind

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    Look like some shit is on my mind, niggas

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    Need to talk, but nobody to turn to

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    So I go to horoscopes in the Jersey Journal

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    It's always somethin' bad, I don't know why I read it

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    Then I play it off, it's fake, I don't believe it!

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    Smokin' like two packs a day

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    Still got about five cartons stashed away

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    And that's just were I'm at today

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    I'll be in a better place if I just passed away (sike!)

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    Just hop in the casket and lay

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    That's old school Mouse, move on, put the past away