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The Syndicate

The Syndicate is a diss track by Ice-T targeting LL Cool J. The recording also credits Hen-Gee and Donald-D. Ice-T and LL Cool J traded competitive barbs during the late 1980s. Ice-T used LL's records, romantic persona and claims to rap supremacy as material, sometimes naming him and sometimes parodying the kind of love-song image associated with him.

Released1988
Annotated3
ExplicitYes
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Lyrics & breakdown

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  1. 01

    [Verse 1: Ice-T]

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    Liquid, solid, gas, we'll be kickin' ass

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    In any form, or matter, or mass

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    (This ain't science class?) I know, but it's science

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    From the rhyme boss of the Syndicate alliance

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    Ballin', makin' ya feel the growth

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    Rhyme Syndicate brotherhood, we rock a blood oath

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    Radical posse down to death

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    While your crew's on the tape, Donald-D break

  3. 10

    [Verse 2: Donald-D]

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    Syndicate comin' through, I'm talkin' to you

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    Flexin' hardcore, what could you do?

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    When we roll up you send your girl up to the crib-o

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    Is it Rambo? No, the mic ammo

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    Stompin' you down on the ground, task forces

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    Let you know Rhyme Syndicate bosses

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    Any show, any tour, we house program

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    Donald-D is who I am, damn

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    [Verse 3: Hen-Gee]

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    Attempt to do this, boy, you're takin' a risk

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    'Cause my voice sounds doper than a compact disc

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    Styles and lyrics, precise right in the pocket

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    Stupid dope beats and Evil E rocks it

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    I don't need no other, girl, straight from my heart

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    My jam is sure to hit the top of the charts

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    Ram is my sign, he's different from all kinds

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    Rock you all of the time, just form a single line

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    [Verse 4: Ice-T]

    Multi-line diss block
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    A lot of MC's like to talk 'bout they self

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    A first-grade topic, I think you need help

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    How many time on one album can you say you're def?

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    "I'm bad", yo punk, save your breath

    Block noteFlips LL's slogans into evidence of repetition

    TargetLL Cool J

    MeaningWhat it means: Ice-T asks how many times one album can repeat claims of being ‘def’ or ‘bad,’ echoing the vocabulary and title imagery central to LL Cool J's self-presentation. Why it was said: The insult is not simply that Ice-T ranks himself higher; he argues that LL's supremacy pitch has become a first-grade topic with no idea behind it, making repetition itself evidence of limited writing.

    Wordplay‘I'm bad’ points toward LL Cool J's 1987 single and album title Bigger and Deffer, commonly shortened to B.A.D.; ‘def’ also draws on that title's boast.

    ContextIce-T and LL Cool J traded competitive barbs during the late 1980s. Ice-T used LL's records, romantic persona and claims to rap supremacy as material, sometimes naming him and sometimes parodying the kind of love-song image associated with him.

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    That's weak shit from a weak mind

    Multi-line diss block
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    And a weak mind creates weak rhymes

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    You ain't never kicked knowledge one time

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    Just livin' on your own dick (That's a crime)

    Block noteTreats self-celebration as weak-minded writing

    TargetLL Cool J

    MeaningWhat it means: Ice-T connects a ‘weak mind’ to ‘weak rhymes’ and says the unnamed rival has never delivered knowledge because he is absorbed in praising himself. Why it was said: Ice-T wanted the argument with LL Cool J to turn on subject matter, not only sales or swagger; presenting self-obsession as intellectual emptiness lets him claim that LL's repeated greatness slogans fail hip-hop's teaching function.

    ContextIce-T and LL Cool J traded competitive barbs during the late 1980s. Ice-T used LL's records, romantic persona and claims to rap supremacy as material, sometimes naming him and sometimes parodying the kind of love-song image associated with him.

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    Homeboy, why don't you talk about somethin'?

    Multi-line diss block
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    You just talkin' loud and sayin nothin'

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    And if you get mad, sorry brother

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    And when you're in LA, watch your colors

    Block noteContrasts loud boasting with something worth saying

    TargetLL Cool J

    MeaningWhat it means: Ice-T says the rival is loud but substantively silent, then closes with a warning about wearing gang colors in Los Angeles. Why it was said: The sequence moves from a critique of LL Cool J's boast-heavy records to Ice-T's home-ground advantage: a visiting New York star can claim dominance on wax, but Los Angeles has local codes and dangers that fame does not erase.

    ContextIce-T and LL Cool J traded competitive barbs during the late 1980s. Ice-T used LL's records, romantic persona and claims to rap supremacy as material, sometimes naming him and sometimes parodying the kind of love-song image associated with him.

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    [Verse 5: Donald-D]

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    I'm a MD, but no medical doctor

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    Mic-Dominator Donald-D has got you

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    Comin' to the jamboree to hear the poetry

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    And when you break north, the melody

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    Stick to your mind like paste, it can't be erased

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    Face to face I overpower like bass

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    To the climax, I don't carry a sax

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    I carry a axe to tax and wax those who rap

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    [Verse 6: Hen-Gee]

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    Born in Brooklyn, crib West Coast

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    MC's I toast, you that talk most

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    Trash, noise, can't throw, get with it

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    Comin' from the mouth of Hen-Gee from the Syndicate

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    Ballers, mafia down to throw

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    Gangsters, convicts throwin' solid blows

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    Start prayin', your sisters I'm layin'

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    I'm Hen-Gee, a Spinmaster, hear what I'm sayin'?

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    [Instrumental Break]

  15. 60

    [Verse 7: Hen-Gee]

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    An organization, alliance, no duplication

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    Rhyme Syndicate, a strong creation

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    The Syndicate's stronger day by day

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    12-gauge leave suckers brutally

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    Layin' in the dark with the chickens

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    Your lines are thin, Hen-Gee came to win

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    Don't talk a bunch, just known to crunch

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    My one-two punch will put your butt out to lunch

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    [Verse 8: Donald-D]

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    Full-court pressure's what I'm applyin'

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    No relyin' on the next man, roar like a lion

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    Flexin', plexin' ultra, the Bronx is my culture

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    Strikin' hard like a vulture

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    Flingin', I'm slingin' my hammer like Thor

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    No singin', bringin' it raw to the core

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    Shogun assassin maxin' in a limousine

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    You stick your head in, out comes the guillotine

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    [Verse 9: Ice-T]

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    Misery rap, the game as I kick it

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    Don't miss it, get with it

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    Diss it, you're a knucklehead evicted

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    From the crowd that's proud to be the Syndicate connection

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    Respect mandatory, up is the direction

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    I stand alone, one man that's true

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    But you, my crew, you're on my side

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    We're on a ride

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    Power and pride is our gift

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    And you're down with

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    The Syndicate